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In an episode of “Timcast IRL” uploaded on Friday, center-right podcaster Tim Pool fiercely debated the subject of January 6th. Progressive political commentator and YouTuber Luke Beasley appeared on the show and was treated to an exchange that has since gone viral.
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Pool tells Beasley:
You have no right. No, no, no. Stop, stop. You don’t know anything about these January 6 cases. You don’t know why these people are in jail. You don’t know that a man is in Brooklyn right now for three years without charge or trial.
And when Donald Trump says these people have been held for too long, you say. ‘no, Trump is wrong. Keep them locked up.’
That’s f****** fascist, dude. You, you have sit here. You have you’ve been sitting here with no knowledge of the specifics of some of these cases.
There was a man in Brooklyn right now. I’m gonna say it again. No charges whatsoever brought. He’s been in jail for. F****** years.
For you to sit there and say it is good that he remains locked up is fascism. That is saying the hierarchy, the hierarchical system of the courts and the government is just and the process is all that matters.
And I am saying perhaps three years is enough because I actually have moral logic and an understanding of these cases. Hence my position on January 6th has always been the people have attacked police must go to prison. But three years is a f****** long time for assault on an officer.
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Speaking of the left’s “Summer of Love,” when cities burned in 2020, Pool said:
We have seen people on the far left, notably when they were. Firebombing s*** all across Minnesota. Thirty-three people murdered and how many criminal charges we get for this when they firebombed a police station and forced the police to evacuate? On May 29th, 2020, when thousands of far leftists firebombed the White House grounds and set fire to St. John’s church and injured 100 police officers. How many f****** people went to prison for three years?
Pool shifted his attention to the high-profile inmate, Enrique Tarrio, the former chairman of the Proud Boys. Tarrio was convicted of seditious conspiracy, based on the controversial legal theory of “implicit conspiracy,” which defense lawyers compared to telepathy during closing arguments.
In his closing, DOJ prosecutor Connor Mulroe told jurors:
A conspiracy can be unspoken, implicit. A wink and a nod.
Although Tarrio did not attend the Capitol attack, he received the longest sentence of any January 6 defendant—22 years. Federal prosecutors appealed the sentence, arguing for a 33-year term despite his non-attendance.
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Pool continued:
How many of them who never showed up on that day are in prison for 20 years? Enrique Tarrio wasn’t even in DC on January 6th. You are saying that man who only his only crime was quote, “don’t leave,” that’s his only crime. You think he should be in prison for 20 years because you’re a fascist. You don’t care what the facts are. You don’t care if this is unjust. You only care that the machine state has decreed you are not to be locked up.
Pool then spoke of the tribalist mentality of the left, saying:
And this is the problem I have with the left. They don’t know the facts. They don’t care about the facts. They view morality as a blanket government stroke of the pen and every person, regardless of their crime should be in prison for decades. I reject it outright. The people who fought cops. Should go to prison. They did. It’s been three years.
But when you’ve got people who are on misdemeanor charges for having walked into a building at 4:00 PM after the riot, and I know some of these people, they walked into a building for two minutes and walked out and they got 18 months for that. I don’t see you defending the innocent people who walked onto a public grass at a public building after a ride had been completed. You don’t know, you don’t care. You’ve taken a tribal position and people are suffering because of it.
Pool defends the issue of pardons for January 6th defendants, telling Beasley:
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Now you say that Donald Trump saying, ‘The injustice that we’ve seen warrants commutation or pardons,’ you say that means is advocating for violence. This is the ultimate problem. Then you cite a press release from Maryland saying, ‘but the right’s more violent.’ There is a distinction between a white supremacist as a right wing group and a run-of-the-mill Christian conservative who showed up on that day not to protest.
Pool mentions other defendants, Brandon Straka, the founder of the WalkAway campaign, and Owen Shroyer of Infowars, before turning his focus back to Tarrio:
Let’s talk about Brandon Straka. He never went in the building. He was on the other side of the building. There was a permanent protest. He walked up the stairs and he was yelling. They put this guy in prison. There was Owen Shroyer, who was at a permanent rally, who was yelling, ‘death to communists.’ They put him in prison and specifically cited his speech.
My dude, you don’t know what you’re talking about.
And it’s fine.I get it. We try to be polite. We try to be nice. But there are so many young liberals who sit here and say the corporate press told me that these people are bad and the machine state government has decreed it by pen. So I don’t care what crime they committed. I don’t care what the jury said. I don’t care who was on the jury. Enrique Tarrio, who was not there, should be in prison for two decades. Tell me this now. Why is Enrique Tariro in prison?
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A stunned Beasley gives the usual talking point, saying:
Yeah, so they undercut or uncovered with him his plot to overthrow the government.
Pool:
What plot? Who’s they?
Beasley:
Prosecutors.
Pool fires back, displeased with Beasley’s tone:
Who’s that? Give me some, give me some f****** data. Stop. Stop squinting at me and saying, ‘the prosecutors did a thing.’ You didn’t know, you didn’t read it, you didn’t read the court papers. All you know is that the fascist machine state told you he should be in prison and you’re saying ‘yes’ to them.
President-elect Trump continues to signal his intention to pardon many January 6th defendants. Trump contends he will start this process “within minutes” following his inauguration next month.
You can find the full episode of Timcast IRL here.
Editor’s note: Enrique Tarrio is a personal friend of this author.