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The world’s most popular podcaster, Joe Rogan, believes that Joe Biden voted for President-elect Donald Trump.

During the most recent episode of the Joe Rogan Experience, Rogan told his guest, Black Rifle Coffee CEO Evan Hafer, that he guarantees Biden went MAGA to spite Kamala Harris.

Biden and Trump had a meeting at the White House on Wednesday.

“Biden voted for Trump. I guarantee it. I f-cking guarantee it,” Rogan said. “I never saw that dude so happy in his fuckin life. He lost! His party lost! He was happy!”

Rogan continued, “That motherf-cker has never been happier in his life. In his life. He’s like that b-tch! She went down! You can’t tell me he wasn’t happy. Like when he put that MAGA hat on. You ever see that?”

“Yeah. Yeah,” Hafer replied.

“He put the MAGA hat on! He took it with him on the plane. I’m guarantee you that motherf-cker was happy. He had a giant smile on his face! He said, welcome back to him. I thought he was Hitler? I thought he was dangerous?” Rogan continued.

“I mean, that’s what they all said, right? It’s like, hey he’s a threat to democracy,” Hafer said.

“I thought he was a Nazi!” Rogan asserted.

Hafer responded, “And then all of a sudden, it’s like, hey, we’re going to have a smooth transition here.”

“This was the guy that you said was sharp as a tack. Up until four months ago — four months ago that guy was going to be running again. And now here he is, smiling like a Cheshire cat. That’s a crazy smile!” Rogan said.