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If you’re looking for good analysis breaking down the insanity of the modern “trans” movement, then J.D. Vance’s Thursday interview with podcaster Joe Rogan is the discussion to watch.

The GOP vice presidential pick and the comedian covered a lot of topics in their more than three-hour talk. From finding out how Vance was picked to be Donald Trump’s running mate to discussing the first assassination attempt against the former president, the interview provided more in-depth content about the Hillbilly Elegy author’s life and philosophy than corporate media ever could.

Among the most notable topics the two men discussed, however, was the “radical religion” of the modern transgender movement.

The conversation came to fruition after Vance and Rogan talked about the attempt on Trump’s life in Butler, Pennsylvania, and the lack of information about the shooter.

“When there’s a school shooter, we usually have the person’s manifesto out there a day or two later. We know nothing about the motive here [regarding Butler], which I think is the craziest thing,” Vance said. “Obviously he’s motivated because he hates Donald Trump, but you don’t know anything about the secondary motive.”

“The only time we don’t get a manifesto is when they’re trans. When they’re trans, they hide those manifestos,” Rogan said.

The GOP senator referenced how officials hid the manifesto of the trans-identifying woman who carried out a mass shooting at a Nashville Christian school last year that resulted in the deaths of six people, including three children. He noted how the shooter was “motivated by some very radical trans ideology,” adding that “that is something we should talk more about as a country.”

“One hundred percent,” Rogan said. “If there’s any other ideology that led someone to mass murder, you would examine that ideology very carefully. If it was some sort of radical religion, people would be like very concerned about that radical religion — and it is. It’s a radical religion of woke.”

The podcast host further described how modern, trans-obsessed leftists have concocted this “weird idea that you are so virtuous and so correct, [that] you’re allowed to commit violence against these other people because they’re the ‘oppressors’ — even though they’re children.”

Vance, a practicing Catholic, noted how the “In This House, We Believe” signs that often frequent the yards of leftists are similar to the creed Catholics declare during Mass.

“There’s almost a similar cadence between the Christian creed and what these guys are doing with this hyper-woke stuff,” the Ohio native said. “There’s the rallies and then there’s, of course, the various rituals. And it absolutely is a religious faith.”

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The two men went on to discuss Democrats’ unhinged obsession with “transing” children and how minors shouldn’t be permitted access to chemical and surgical castration. The two also noted the financial incentives among pharmaceutical companies to push such dangerous procedures.

“We’ve always known that children are very easily influenced and that children shouldn’t be allowed to make life-changing decisions when they’re very young,” Rogan said. “We’ve always known that. And then, all of a sudden because of gender, that’s abandoned? … I’ve had mind-numbing conversations with people who believe that, and it all falls apart if you just keep asking questions.”

Shawn Fleetwood is a staff writer for The Federalist and a graduate of the University of Mary Washington. He previously served as a state content writer for Convention of States Action and his work has been featured in numerous outlets, including RealClearPolitics, RealClearHealth, and Conservative Review. Follow him on Twitter @ShawnFleetwood