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President-elect Donald Trump offered his take on what went wrong for failed Democratic replacement nominee Kamala Harris during his interview with TIME, which accompanied the magazine naming Trump as the 2024 “Person of the Year.”

To hear Trump tell it, the big mistake Harris made was “taking the assignment” of replacing President Joe Biden, as he noted it’s important to “know what you’re good at.”

It’s not lost on readers that the use of the term “assignment” insinuates a greater master orchestrating events.

“I think that when she wouldn’t talk to anybody, it shone a light on her,” Trump said. “In other words, if she would have gone out and just did interviews where they’re comparable to Steve, if there is anybody comparable, would say, could you do an interview here? An interview there? You know, she didn’t do anything.”

“And people said, is there something wrong with her?” he continued. “Why would they? I mean, I’m doing this interview with you. I did interviews with, if I had the time, anybody that would ask, I’d do interviews. I think the Joe Rogan interview, you know, that went on for almost three and a half hours.”

The Rogan interview is seen by many as a deciding factor in the outcome of the election, both for Trump’s ability to present himself favorably for 3-plus hours and for Harris avoiding a reciprocal invitation.

Early on, the Harris campaign strategy was to avoid all media, even those who can be counted on to be friendly, which Trump called “a big tactical mistake.”

“They turned everybody down. They wouldn’t do the basic,” the president said. “And people, including me, would start to say, is there something wrong with her? What’s wrong? Why wouldn’t you do some basic interviews?”

“And then she had some pretty failed interviews, and maybe it was highlighted more than it would,” he added. “In other words, if she did those same interviews, but she did another 15 interviews, you know, you wouldn’t have really noticed it that much.”

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