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To hear Apple tell it, a daily news podcast produced by the New York Times is more popular than Joe Rogan’s wildly popular podcast.

Apple released its most popular podcasts of 2024 and The Daily, produced by the Times and hosted by reporters Michael Barbaro and Sabrina Tavernise, claimed the top spot. The true-crime podcast Crime Junkie came in second, according to Apple.

The Joe Rogan Experience, which has 17.5 million subscribers on YouTube and more than 14 million followers on Spotify, came in third. For what it’s worth, Rogan announced on February 8, 2024, that his podcast was “officially back” on Apple after three years as a result of Spotify giving up exclusivity rights. His presence on YouTube soon followed.

Here are Apple’s Top 10, which may not only surprise you but may also say something about who’s using Apple:

The Daily
Crime Junkie
The Joe Rogan Experience
Dateline NBC
SmartLess
Huberman Lab
This American Life
New Heights with Jason & Travis Kelce
Up First from NPR
Morbid

Keep in mind that Rogan’s interview with President-elect Trump has been seen by 51 million people on YouTube alone and Rogan complained that there was something funny going on with YouTube’s search option that made it challenging for the Trump interview to show up early on. Rogan shared the episode on X where it received another 25 million views and it was also featured on Spotify.

But it wasn’t the number one episode on Apple. The interview that many on the left insist helped tip the election to Trump came in second to a Crime Junkie episode on the Alphabet murders.

In fact, the Top 10 episodes may have you rethinking your listening pleasures:

Crime Junkie: “SERIAL KILLER: The Alphabet Murders Part 1”
The Joe Rogan Experience: “#2219 – Donald Trump”
The Daily: “Harris Baits Trump: Inside Their Fiery Debate”
Dateline NBC: “Dangerous Secret”
The Bakersfield Three: “Episode 1: Fight Like a Mother”
SmartLess: “Vince Vaughn”
Three: “Skylar Is Missing | Chapter 1”
Serial: “Serial S04 – Ep. 1: Poor Baby Raul”
Mortal Sin: “1 – Ashes to Ashes”
New Heights with Jason & Travis Kelce: “Travis Wins on the Road, Jason Celebrates Shirtless and Full Divisional Round Recap | Ep 75”

Dateline NBC? The Trump interview only ranked fifth in the most shared episode in the country.

As for the best new podcasts for 2024, The Tucker Carlson Show earned the top spot, followed by the true crime podcasts Three and Mortal Sin.

If there was a common theme seen in the responses to the story, it centered around one thought:

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