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Former GOP presidential candidate Vivek Ramaswamy gave a sneak preview of what cost-cutting may look like under the new Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE).

Ramaswamy and X CEO Elon Musk have been tapped by President-elect Donald Trump to lead the new department that will focus on reducing wasteful federal spending. The entrepreneur spoke with Fox News’s “Sunday Morning Futures” about plans that could potentially shutter some federal agencies permanently.

“We expect certain agencies to be deleted outright,” Ramaswamy told host Maria Bartiromo.

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“We expect mass reductions in force in areas of the federal government that are bloated. We expect massive cuts among federal contractors and others who are over-billing the federal government,” he said.

“So yes, we expect all of the above, and I think people will be surprised by… how quickly we’re able to move with some of those changes given the legal backdrop the Supreme Court has given us,” Ramaswamy added.

“Have you thought about moving some of those departments or agencies out of Washington?” Bartiromo asked.

“It’s funny you bring up this point. ‘Yes’ is the answer, but here’s why – they’ll say, ‘What happens to the people who live in Washington, D.C.?’ Here’s the dirty little secret in the federal bureaucracy today, most people don’t even show up to work,” Ramaswamy replied.

“So if you require most of those federal bureaucrats to just say, like normal working Americans, you come to work five days a week, a lot of them won’t want to do that,” he added. “And by the way, that creates a logic for many of those agencies being outside of DC in the first place.”

He explained that many of the agencies will need to be “downsized” regardless of whether or not they are moved out of D.C.

“Many of these agencies should be downsized wherever they are, and for whatever does remain, move many of them out to be more accountable to the people. And by the way, if you have many voluntary reductions in force of the workforce in the federal government along the way, great, that’s a good side effect of those policies as well,” he explained.

Our goal is not to be cruel, by the way, to the individual federal employees. Most of them, I do want to say this, are individually good people, and we want to be compassionate and generous in how we handle this transition,” Ramaswamy told Bartiromo.

“But the real issue is there’s just too many of them, we don’t need 4 million, and we shouldn’t have 4 million civil servants who aren’t elected and can’t be removed from their positions,” he said. “It’s anti-democratic.”

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