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ABC’s The View co-host Joy Behar didn’t get the memo on toning down the rhetoric. During Thursday’s interview with the former host of The Daily Show, Trevor Noah, Behar claimed Donald Trump is scapegoating immigrants and warned, “Don’t forget Nazi Germany, the Jews were the scapegoat, and look what happened here.” Elsewhere, Noah claimed “some people might struggle” with a President Kamala Harris because she is a black woman.

Behar asked Noah, who was on to promote his new book, “He’s blaming them for violent crime, which the crime rate is down, housing costs, which Kamala has a program to fix that. He’s saying that these immigrants are eating the cats and dogs. That is one of the dumbest things he’s ever said, so as an immigrant from South Africa yourself, give me your reaction to being scapegoated?”

Omitting all the border crises and illegal immigration generally, Noah claimed that Trump and his supporters aren’t all that different from Americans of previous eras, “So, I think if you look at these issues in only an American context, they will seem unique. You know, I think the first thing to remember is this has always been a rite of passage in America. It’s a terrible rite of passage. It’s almost like a form of political hazing, but that’s what America does.”

After Noah compared current immigration discourse to that over previous rounds of Irish, Polish, and Italian immigration, Behar took it a step further and implied death camps might be coming soon to America, “Don’t forget Nazi Germany, the Jews were the scapegoat, and look what happened there.”

Earlier in the segment, co-host Sunny Hostin recalled, “Well, I remember you famously ended your final episode of The Daily Show paying homage to black women, especially the ones who raised you. I think we have a clip.”

In the clip, Noah declared, “I’ll tell you now, do yourself a favor. You truly want to know what to do or how to do it, or maybe the best way or the most equitable way, talk to black women. They are—they’re a lot of the reason why I’m here, so I’m grateful to them, I’m grateful to every single one of you.”

Back live, Behar added, “They always save the country with their votes, so we’re grateful to them also.”

At the same time, Hostin asked, “Well, we just had Madam Vice President Kamala Harris on the show this week. What do you think America could learn having a black female president?”

Noah replied that, “I think black women as a collective have shown us many things, not just in America but all over the world.”

In true “World to end tomorrow: Women, minorities hardest hit” fashion, Noah continued, “You know what I meant by that statement was, there is very seldom a political system that’s running badly that doesn’t impact black women the worst, and so if you ask black women as a collective, as voters, what do you think should be done, whatever they do, whatever they choose will inadvertently benefit everybody else, you know.”

Noah also claimed, “I think black women see their country with a clarity that most people cannot afford to at times, and so that’s what I mean by that. In a sense, I don’t know what America would learn, per se, because this is one black woman, but I think we’re already seeing America is going to learn a lot of its, you know, how it views a black woman in a position of power, which some people might struggle to deal with because it comes with certain connotations for them.”

Ultimately, Noah tried to have it both ways. He knows Harris “is one black woman” who has ideas that people are allowed to disagree with, but he also wants to employ lazy attacks about people being afraid of “certain connotations.”

Here is a transcript for the October 10 show:

ABC The View

10/9/2024

11:36 PM ET

SUNNY HOSTIN: Well, I remember you famously ended your final episode of The Daily Show paying homage to black women, especially the ones who raised you. I think we have a clip.

TREVOR NOAH [12/8/2022]: I’ll tell you now, do yourself a favor. You truly want to know what to do or how to do it, or maybe the best way or the most equitable way, talk to black women. They are—they’re a lot of the reason why I’m here, so I’m grateful to them, I’m grateful to every single one of you.

JOY BEHAR: They always save the country with their votes, so we’re grateful to them also.

HOSTIN: Well, we just had Madam Vice President Kamala Harris on the show this week. What do you think America could learn having a black female president?

NOAH: Well, I’ll be careful to prescribe certain, you know, learnings or ideas to one person. You know, I think it’s always important to know that when I said that I said black women, and I think black women as a collective have shown us many things, not just in America but all over the world. 

You know what I meant by that statement was, there is very seldom a political system that’s running badly that doesn’t impact black women the worst, and so if you ask black women as a collective, as voters, what do you think should be done, whatever they do, whatever they choose will inadvertently benefit everybody else, you know.

And you can take this away from American politics. Like in Africa, we’ve seen it time and time again. Even when the charitable organizations, if they give a dollar to any one person, the person who stretches the dollar the most and the person where they find the dollar goes to the most people is when they give it to a black woman and so people need to understand there is a terrible, you know, it’s a gift and a curse, the curse is that black women bear the brunt of all bad decisions, you know, black women, whether it’s economical, whether it’s political, they don’t have a chance to mess around with the vote. They don’t have a chance to have a protest vote

BEHAR: Exactly.

NOAH: So, I think black women see their country with a clarity that most people cannot afford to at times, and so that’s what I mean by that. In a sense, I don’t know what America would learn, per se, because this is one black woman, but I think we’re already seeing America is going to learn a lot of its, you know, how it views a black woman in a position of power, which some people might struggle to deal with because—

WHOOPI GOLDBERG: Yeah.

NOAH: It comes with certain connotations for them.

HOSTIN: Yeah.

BEHAR: That’s true.

GOLDBERG: To you, Joy.

BEHAR: So, Trump and the right have been ramping up their attacks on immigrants, which you are one, right?

NOAH:  I like how you say that like you’re putting a target on my back and “you are one, Trevor.”

BEHAR: I am once removed. That’s all, once removed. He’s blaming them for everything.

NOAH: Yes. Yes.

BEHAR: The scapegoating has begun. He’s blaming them for violent, crime which the crime rate is down, housing costs, which Kamala has a program to fix that. He’s saying that these immigrants are eating the cats and dogs. That is one of the dumbest things he’s ever said, so as an immigrant from South Africa yourself, give me your reaction to being scapegoated?

NOAH: So, I think if you look at these issues in only an American context, they will seem unique. You know, I think the first thing to remember is this has always been a rite of passage in America. It’s a terrible rite of passage. It’s almost like a form of political hazing, but that’s what America does. 

HOSTIN: Yes.

NOAH: When the Irish came they were those criminals and they were the people who were making the country worse.

HOSTIN: The Italians.

NOAH: When the Polish came and the Italians came, America’s constantly had this legacy of othering and pointing and then at some point the people blend in and then there’s a new version of what the other is.

GOLDBERG: Well, you would think so.

NOAH: In many ways.

BEHAR:  Don’t forget Nazi Germany, the Jews were the scapegoat—

NOAH: Exactly. Exactly

BEHAR: — and look what happened there.