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Republican vice presidential nominee J.D. Vance tore into NBC News host Kristen Welker for constantly attempting to defend Vice President Kamala Harris for her role in tackling the illegal immigration crisis at the U.S.-Mexico border.

During an interview on “Meet the Press,” Vance and Welker discussed the issue of millions of illegal aliens crossing the border since Harris was charged with addressing the “root causes of migration” as the “border czar” to mitigate the crisis.

“Well, we have to start with the foundational issue here, which is we have 25 million illegal aliens in this country right now because Kamala Harris has refused to do her job,” Vance began.

Welker pushed back, saying, “I have, very quickly, DHS says it’s much lower, it’s closer to eight million. Where do you get the 25 million from?”

“Well, I think the 25 million are the people that should’ve been deported that maybe weren’t deported, plus you add another 12 to 15 million that have come in since Kamala Harris. Look, whatever the number is —” Vance tried again.

“DHS disputes that number, for the record. They say it’s closer to eight to ten million, but please continue,” Welker repeated her objection.

“Fair, but I think there are reasons to think that DHS is underestimating. Whatever the number is, it’s way too high, right?” Vance said of the ongoing crisis. “It’s millions upon millions of illegal immigrants that have come in just since Kamala became border czar a few years ago. The first thing —”

“She was put in charge of the root causes of migration,” Welker interrupted.

“Well, the root cause of migration, I would say, Kristen, is that Kamala Harris refuses to do her job as Border Czar,” Vance shot back.

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This is the second time in recent weeks that Vance has set the record straight during an interview with Welker.

During an interview on NBC, Welker repeatedly asked Vance if he agreed with Trump’s suggestions that his Department of Justice could use a special investigator to “go after” President Joe Biden. Vance said he was not opposed to the idea.

“Senator, if former President Trump were to win, would you support him appointing a special prosecutor to go after his political enemies, the Bidens?” Welker asked.

“Well, first of all, Chris said, I find it interesting how much the media and the Democrats have lost their minds over this particular quote. Donald Trump is talking about appointing a special prosecutor to investigate Joe Biden for wrongdoing. Joe Biden has done exactly that for the last few years and has done far more, in addition to that, to engage in a campaign of lawfare against his political opposition. I think what Donald Trump is simply saying is we ought to investigate the prior administration,” Vance began.

“There are obviously many instances of wrongdoing. The House Oversight Committee has identified a number of corrupt business transactions that may or may not be criminal. Of course, you have to investigate to find out. So I think Donald Trump saying, look, let’s do the basic work of investigating wrongdoing, is a totally reasonable thing for him to do. And frankly, the Biden administration has done far worse. So if you think that what Donald Trump is proposing is a threat to democracy, isn’t what Biden has already done a massive threat to our system of law and government?” Vance added.

“Senator, just to be very clear, though, Joe Biden didn’t appoint a special prosecutor, the attorney general did that. Trump was indicted by grand juries. A jury of his peers in New York found him to be guilty. But can we just go back to the core question here? Would you support him taking such an action? It sounds like you’re saying, yes, you would,” Welker followed up.

Vance shot back: “I would absolutely support investigating prior wrongdoing by our government. Absolutely. That’s what you have to have in a system of law and order. Kristen. But I have to reject the premise here. Joe Biden appointed the attorney general, Merrick Garland, who, of course, answers to Joe Biden and can be fired by Joe Biden. So the idea that the Biden administration has nothing to do with the appointment of the special prosecutor, I think, completely betrays an understanding, a misunderstanding of how our system of government actually works.”

“And of course, and of course, Kristen, we have to make this point, Kristen, that the prosecution of Donald Trump in New York, which I think now is fundamentally been thrown in doubt by this immunity case, it was one of the main guys was a Department of Justice official in the Biden administration who jumped ship to join a local prosecutor’s office to go after him…You question the legitimacy of the prosecution. That’s a problem,” Vance continued.

Welker then asked: “Senator, that happens all the time. People are appointed from Washington…The DOJ told Congress this week it reviewed all communications since Biden took office and found no contact between federal prosecutors and those involved with that case in New York. Can you stick to the substance of the question, though? Let me just ask, because I just want to stick with this line of theory that you are laying out, which is you are saying it’s not okay for Joe Biden to weaponize the Justice Department if it’s not okay for Joe Biden to weaponize the Justice Department, as you say, and there’s no evidence of that. Why is it okay for Donald Trump to do that?”

“Well, Kristen, first of all, you said that it happens all the time, but the number three person in the Department of Justice jumped ship to join a local prosecutor’s office to go after the president’s political opponent. I don’t think that’s ever happened in the history of American democracy, and I don’t think that we should legitimize it,” Vance responded.

“Now, if Donald Trump’s attorney general had this, his number two or his number three would have jumped ship to a local prosecutor’s office in Ohio or Wisconsin, and that person would then go after Donald Trump’s political opposition. That’s a different conversation. All he’s suggesting is that we should investigate credible arguments of wrongdoing. That’s all that Donald Trump is saying. That is not a threat to democracy. That’s merely reinforcing our system of law and government,” Vance concluded.

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